> So the boxer who placed that box recarved the stamp (same image)
> and replanted it in a compeletely different section of the same
> park.

"Recarved" and "replanted" are the key words that make me think the
letterbox was moved. Thus, it's not a completely new box, nor counts
as one. It's a replacement box in a new location.

-- Ryan

I probably would have counted it as a new find. I count boxes found, so new
clues, new location = a find.



Mama Stork
aka Pam in Cinci
So for anyone who has time to ponder these questions of the universe, how
would YOU have counted this one?

DebBee, pondering





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For the box you describe, we would count that as a new
find. You also have to remember that the Letterboxer's
Companion contains the authors views which may or not
be the majority view and certainly not the only
view......Chuck and Molly

--- StDebb@aol.com wrote:
> Okay, I'm going to phrase this carefully.
> I'm not asking what the
> "rule" is, because of course there aren't any of
> those, but I'll ask how would
> YOU count this kind of thing for yourself.
>
> Some of you may remember awhile back I shared the
> story of how one of the
> boxes in my area was found by a homeless man who
> broke the stamp and used the
> logbook as his personal diary for awhile. So the
> boxer who placed that box
> recarved the stamp (same image) and replanted it in
> a compeletely different
> section of the same park. Different clues,
> different enviroment, etc. (And
> actually tougher (for me) to find than the first
> one.) _The Letterboxer's
> Companion_ says you should only count a box as a new
> find if it has a different
> hiding spot, different clues, and a different stamp.
> This one only had two out of
> the three, but it was actually a very different
> finding experience.
>
> So for anyone who has time to ponder these questions
> of the universe, how
> would YOU have counted this one?
>
> DebBee, pondering
>
>
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> removed]
>
>


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Do PFX counts really matter? Truth be known, I'm not into letterboxing for
the PFX count. I do letterboxing for 2 reasons...

The first one I am sure you'll all remember if because it affords me a
chance to do things with my family. It introduces me with areas I might
never have seen and it shares with me, some one else's thoughts on that area
or at the very least, their thoughts on carving.

Secondly, it's because I enjoy competing, but, I make a terrible competitor.
I don't like to lose, in fact, I am a very bad loser. And I recognize that
fault in myself and have done a lot to remove that from myself. In this
hobby, however, I am not competing with anyone at all. Just myself. And,
even if I lose to myself, well..... I've still won! (grin)

So, as far as counting a box that I have found before, I use this simple
equation:

If it is the same named box, in the same location, but the stamp is
different, it's NOT a new find to me.

If it is the same named box, in a different location whether or not the
stamp is changed, it IS a new find to me.

If it is a different named box, in a different location, but the stamp is
the same, it IS a new find for me.

My basis for determining this is, did I have to search and locate the new
box. Whether or not it's in the same park, if I can't walk right back up to
it again, then it's a new find for me. I, personally, don't like the idea
of someone just moving the box to a new location for whatever reason, but,
if something happens to the original box, and they salvage the original
stamp, move it two trees to the left and over 6, make new or slightly
altered clues, then, to me, it's a new find.

Remember, please, these are my opinion's and are not meant as an absolute
for anything to anyone.

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"We leave nothing but an image to mark our passage."
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"Lord, please make me the kind of person my dog thinks I am."